Not sure how you arrive at CJF being a "great coach" but -- Hokeedokee 05/20/2021 08:58AM
LOL, "CJF is a great coach". You might want to run that by his players -- brownsummithokie 05/20/2021 12:35AM
What do you base a comment like that on? Other than a lame attempt to be -- AbsolutVT03 05/20/2021 12:39AM
Ask me again next year. I promise you will not like the answer. Until the -- brownsummithokie 05/20/2021 12:50AM
Been attending since the mid 60's.. FU is Not a Good Coach.. -- JRHokie 05/20/2021 10:58AM
LOL, you have proof that players hate Fuente that you can give us in a year -- BG Hokie 05/20/2021 07:34AM
There is an amazing pattern on this board... -- WildTurkE 05/20/2021 08:05AM
Perhaps....... -- 2hhoop3 05/20/2021 09:53AM
Well said ** -- 85vthokie_cincy 05/20/2021 2:57PM
I remember when Ricky LaBlue posted on here the JE was transferring. He was -- NokieHokie 05/20/2021 12:00PM
I didn’t ask for sources. I think Fuente is the Devil incarnate. I’m just -- BG Hokie 05/20/2021 3:58PM
That sums it up....very well BTW -- 85vthokie_cincy 05/20/2021 09:14AM
...he does seem to have much mo' the Family/Therapy-first vibe; now that -- bourbonstreet 05/19/2021 5:08PM
The bar for CJF is much higher with fans... -- Mr. Touchdown 05/19/2021 1:00PM
Not sure I agree. Most sane fans are ok with 8-9 wins and beating uva each -- uvabasher 05/19/2021 10:17PM
No doubt. perception=reality Dr. Ed.Mankiw on life-economics. ** -- bourbonstreet 05/19/2021 5:09PM
One correction to your post: Fu’s bar was higher -- Tombo 05/19/2021 1:16PM
It’s FUBAR ** -- VPI63 05/19/2021 6:00PM
Nice one ** -- Jbohokie63 05/20/2021 10:49AM
It is arrogance (CJF) vs humility (CMY) -- VT ChemE 1986 05/19/2021 10:05AM
If had humility and lost I will still feel the same -- VaTechHokiesACC 05/21/2021 8:39PM
Nailed IT !!!!!!!!!!!! ** -- hokiewasp 05/20/2021 1:58PM
THANK YOU !!!! ** -- JRHokie 05/20/2021 10:59AM
Still don’t get the “arrogant” stuff. He doesn’t seem arrogant at all. -- AbsolutVT03 05/20/2021 12:42AM
Arrogance is ok if you win (see Saban) ** -- uvabasher 05/19/2021 10:18PM
You associate -- JoWood07 05/19/2021 9:31PM
How about him not being able to offer Loren Johnson enough $ to come coach -- hokiepro 05/19/2021 8:06PM
From the outside - this seems accurate -- Rationalist 05/19/2021 3:07PM
But is the recruiting budget the whole reason for our woes? I think not. ** -- NokieHokie 05/19/2021 3:31PM
Agreed. However - I think it points to something -- Rationalist 05/19/2021 3:43PM
Yeah that is totally fair. IMO, there is plenty of blame to go around for -- NokieHokie 05/19/2021 3:44PM
And 20-21 is a wash -- Hokie1992 05/19/2021 5:47PM
You wrote: -- VPI63 05/20/2021 02:47AM
Shade of grey wherever I go -- Hokie1992 05/20/2021 08:37AM
Re: “ The football roster has finally stabilized.” -- VPI63 05/20/2021 11:09AM
The roster has stabilized significantly from two years ago -- Hokie1992 05/20/2021 12:31PM
I would have fired him after the ODU game. ** -- VPI63 05/20/2021 1:06PM
Mike Young is a more outgoing person -- VTCALS72 05/19/2021 09:02AM
...leadership. people seem to gravitate toward him ** -- chumley 05/20/2021 6:54PM
Think Dabo Swinney as a great example. ** -- Bburg Mac 05/19/2021 12:03PM
Of a salesman? yes he is -- VTCALS72 05/19/2021 12:12PM
Is if fair to say Dabo knows what he is and what he is not, thus his OC/DC -- ChazB 05/19/2021 4:41PM
Dabo also pays them over a million each ** -- uvabasher 05/19/2021 10:21PM
So on the pretense about talking about salesmanship of Dabo and MY -- VTCALS72 05/19/2021 7:40PM
Per request... -- ChazB 05/19/2021 9:16PM
So if I read you right -- VTCALS72 05/20/2021 08:46AM
Isn't it awesome there's so many places to sit in Lane outside of Section 7 -- ChazB 05/20/2021 11:45AM
What a guy, yep one of those who want -- VTCALS72 05/20/2021 6:44PM
Why, in your opinion, are the resources hamburger level? ** -- NokieHokie 05/20/2021 9:01PM
Harvin and Boyd were above VT's O. Had Frank made the necessary changes, it -- NokieHokie 05/20/2021 09:03AM
Harvin was above VT’s pay scale. -- RJHokie 05/20/2021 09:19AM
That too! But having a great O might have helped the cause... :) ** -- NokieHokie 05/20/2021 09:23AM
Maybe, but I doubt it. -- RJHokie 05/20/2021 09:29AM
Okay, for get Harvin... Might have helped with many other players! :) ** -- NokieHokie 05/20/2021 09:35AM
Agree there! ** -- RJHokie 05/20/2021 09:36AM
Perhaps, but Dabo's winning results are clear. -- Bburg Mac 05/19/2021 12:24PM
The one thing I am positive about is.. -- Jeffroww 05/19/2021 07:36AM
Truth Jeffroww ** -- Hokie1992 05/19/2021 8:36PM
Fuente hiring a High school coach , you mean just like Mike young just did? ** -- budforpresident 05/19/2021 5:31PM
Well there's been some pretty good HS coaches out of Texas and Fu know TX -- ChazB 05/19/2021 4:44PM
Not sure if sarcastic or not but I’ll bet there are -- Tombo 05/19/2021 8:56PM
Do we get all the positives also like a few top 5 wins? -- WildTurkE 05/19/2021 09:05AM
If Fuente could lure a high school coach as well regarded as Mike Jones -- typed by ben 05/19/2021 07:47AM
Fuente hit a home run in replacing Daryl Tapp with JC Price -- Hokie1992 05/20/2021 08:46AM
Nope. It would not change your mind about him whatsoever. ** -- Jeffroww 05/19/2021 09:21AM
Ah, I see ** -- typed by ben 05/19/2021 1:09PM
Yep, Fu hiring Loren Johnson for instance would be well received ** -- BROman Hokie 05/19/2021 08:22AM
Go CJF... Out Of VT.. and Corny Too ** -- JRHokie 05/19/2021 06:47AM
Nope, need a whole lot of good coaching to make a solid basketball program. -- Bburg Mac 05/19/2021 03:02AM
Ok Nostradamus. There is a difference between having a wishful opinion -- 949hokie 05/18/2021 11:49PM
I myself am not a betting man. Never liked to lose, especially earned $$$ -- hokie4life2 05/18/2021 11:38PM
You lost me at "CJF is a great coach" -- hokiewasp 05/18/2021 10:54PM
...interesting Hiring/Staffing vis-à-vis take. (Eye will listen...) ** -- bourbonstreet 05/19/2021 5:10PM
I just look at his gameday coaching which is terrible..he always seems to -- capitals1 05/19/2021 09:47AM
Well, think about it like this... -- Chris Coleman
05/19/2021 08:50AM
$$ will never make FU a better coach, please quit always using that excuse -- hokiewasp 05/20/2021 12:16PM
"our basketball program has been better supported financially than our FB" -- bourbonstreet 05/19/2021 5:14PM
...and BTW: my peeps and I did at least partially miss this... recall the W -- bourbonstreet 05/19/2021 5:27PM
There’s probably something to this argument but -- Tombo 05/19/2021 10:47AM
Yeah, Cornelsen probably is the best for the amount we pay. -- Chris Coleman
05/19/2021 12:20PM
Man you really have "drank the punch" - there are better OC's in HS than BC ** -- hokiewasp 05/20/2021 12:18PM
Offensive Coordinator -- charlesf 05/20/2021 10:47AM
Statements like these don't matter much when we had 1 anti-O coach for 30 -- NokieHokie 05/20/2021 12:02PM
Another shameless plug to subscribe. I give you guys credit, -- Tombo 05/19/2021 1:08PM
Imagine...people "shamelessly" plugging their business... -- Chris Coleman
05/19/2021 1:58PM
I didn’t mean that in a snarky way. Just never miss an -- Tombo 05/19/2021 2:02PM
As you state, more pay doesn't necessarily guarantee good results. ** -- Bburg Mac 05/19/2021 12:32PM
No doubt. But it does increase your chances. -- Chris Coleman
05/19/2021 12:39PM
We weren’t 3rd in coaching salaries when Beamer was hired -- Planner_Hokie 05/19/2021 10:09PM
Priorities ** -- ChazB 05/19/2021 5:11PM
Yep. It's cold hard truth of where we're at, financially. ** -- NokieHokie 05/19/2021 12:22PM
If FU felt that coach”x” would drastically -- VT757to276 05/19/2021 10:39AM
I agree, but how many do that? Dabo did. And that's it. -- Chris Coleman
05/19/2021 12:22PM
Well, Frank did it (really twice with BC and UNC) and it worked...but yeah. ** -- VTNuke 05/19/2021 8:25PM
What would you do..... -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 11:28AM
Is that what happened? not challenging, just asking. ** -- radhokie1 05/19/2021 4:48PM
That is one story.. -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 8:30PM
You could both acknowledge mistakes were made -- Tombo 05/19/2021 1:14PM
Go for the long game/glory -- VT757to276 05/19/2021 11:45AM
Got it..... -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 11:52AM
Relative to the competition... and relative to results... -- Gobbler Guru 05/19/2021 10:39AM
CMY has earned our support. CJF has tossed away the equity we gave him** -- VT ChemE 1986 05/19/2021 10:07AM
Part of it is MY has proven his willingness to get outside his comfort zone -- soflahokie 05/19/2021 10:02AM
Why is he going to choose his Illinois State boys? -- Chris Coleman
05/19/2021 12:02PM
Or the personality to attract them either, you have said he is an introvert -- hokiewasp 05/20/2021 12:20PM
I never really understood why Fuente didn't leave for Baylor. It may have -- VTNuke 05/19/2021 8:34PM
He was until he found out sanctions were imminent ** -- hokiewasp 05/20/2021 12:22PM
Probably because Baylor is looking at significant NCAA sanctions. -- RJHokie 05/19/2021 8:36PM
The fact that his family likes living in Blacksburg is another reason I am -- FLKEYSHOKIE 05/19/2021 11:23PM
All of your posts beg questions from me today -- Tombo 05/19/2021 1:22PM
Maybe and I stress maybe financially speaking the heavy guns of -- Nelsonia Hokie 05/19/2021 8:03PM
That’s a poor strategy which should have been apparent -- Tombo 05/19/2021 8:51PM
The athletic fundraising was poor long before any biotech stuff. ** -- NokieHokie 05/19/2021 8:25PM
Tech certainly raised money for the large projects -- Hokie1992 05/19/2021 10:20PM
Maybe they were getting shut out too? ** -- Nelsonia Hokie 05/19/2021 7:59PM
Maybe they were getting shut out too? ** -- Nelsonia Hokie 05/19/2021 7:59PM
I'd been shouting from the rooftop various issues since 2006. Almost nobody -- NokieHokie 05/19/2021 2:30PM
But for all we know, you’re just some message board kook that -- Tombo 05/19/2021 3:28PM
But I'm not. It was objectively true. ** -- NokieHokie 05/19/2021 3:29PM
You are but you can also be right 👍 ** -- Tombo 05/19/2021 3:31PM
Oh, and I have those same questions also WRT leadership... :) ** -- NokieHokie 05/19/2021 3:37PM
I am a kook also so I understand. We can smell our own ** -- Tombo 05/19/2021 3:38PM
Yep, no doubt. -- Chris Coleman
05/19/2021 1:59PM
I do find a lot of credence to your last sentence. ** -- saret 05/19/2021 11:06AM
You raise valid observations ...... -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 10:44AM
THIS! A must read for all ** -- VT ChemE 1986 05/19/2021 10:08AM
Man, the hatred for Fuente runs deep with some fans. -- Atlee Hokie 05/19/2021 09:46AM
Yes, very deep and money is certainly not the issue. -- brownsummithokie 05/20/2021 12:43AM
The assertion was fans would still want to fire Fu if he won a national -- Tombo 05/19/2021 10:36PM
Would you say we are a far cry from winning a national championship -- Tombo 05/19/2021 3:41PM
I hate to break it to you.. -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 9:12PM
I'm not sure how this is a reply to my post ** -- Tombo 05/19/2021 10:17PM
Then you need to....... -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 10:22PM
The man has underperformed. Broke every good streak VT football had and -- UTPr0sim 05/19/2021 1:31PM
I'd be less bothered by it if he was making 1.5 million -- typed by ben 05/19/2021 9:10PM
Until the next guy comes in and is hated -- fordham 05/19/2021 10:49AM
Have you compared Hokies to other fans? Just curious... ** -- NokieHokie 05/19/2021 11:10AM
Oh yes, it can be much worse. I believe Hokie fans are fairly reasonable. ** -- Bburg Mac 05/19/2021 12:10PM
Of course we are. We are very passive and tolerant as a whole. ** -- NokieHokie 05/19/2021 12:17PM
That possibly is our problem, we have been too patient and little has -- FLKEYSHOKIE 05/19/2021 10:37PM
And pretty patient compared to others I've seen. ** -- Bburg Mac 05/19/2021 12:28PM
Well stated. ** -- RJHokie 05/19/2021 10:13AM